Wine? Robert Mondavi 2004 Pinot Noir
Coffee? Lila Lofbert Mellanmork Swedish Coffee
Beer? Heineken or Miller Genuine Draft
Pizza? Sausage, Mushrooms & Black Olives or Tomatoes, Spinach and Feta
WG
Wine? Robert Mondavi 2004 Pinot Noir
Coffee? Lila Lofbert Mellanmork Swedish Coffee
Beer? Heineken or Miller Genuine Draft
Pizza? Sausage, Mushrooms & Black Olives or Tomatoes, Spinach and Feta
WG
this comes from todays ask amy.
it really made me mad reading this.
the columist obviously isn't aware that many religions shun - some more than others!.
I think what bothered me is that this happens at all and this lady won't be having anything to do with her son - she can't live much longer than 10-15 years being that she is 80.
But also that this advice columnist doesn't even seem informed that some groups teach these things....she thinks its mental illness or just one bad preacher - not that whole religions/cults/high control groups do this to their flocks not just with JW's but with Mormons, Catholics, Amish, Christian Scientists....etc..
WG
this comes from todays ask amy.
it really made me mad reading this.
the columist obviously isn't aware that many religions shun - some more than others!.
This comes from todays Ask Amy. It really made me mad reading this.
The columist obviously isn't aware that many religions shun - some more than others!
http://www.tmsfeatures.com/tmsfeatures/subcategory.jsp?custid=67&catid=1843
SUDDEN CHANGE IN MOM COULD BE A WARNING SIGN
By Amy Dickinson
Tribune Media Services
DEAR AMY: I just received an e-mail from my 80-year-old mother. The following is part of what she wrote.
"When a member quits the church, the church withdraws from him if he cannot see the light and come back. At this time I have to withdraw from you. I love you very much. Please take this the way it was meant - to make you realize you are lost and must consider coming back to Christ and His church."
I left the church when I left home at 18; I'm now 58. I guess this means she won't be seeing my 7-month-old granddaughter or my daughter and her husband anymore.
My daughter has never been to church. I saved her from this kind of lunacy.
It also means that my mother's cut herself off from her entire family.
What should I tell my daughter and son-in-law? What should I say to my mother? - Stunned
DEAR STUNNED: If your 80-year-old mother is suddenly behaving strangely, then you should investigate the possible causes before writing her off.
If this is the first time your mother has threatened to withdraw from you, then aren't you curious about what might be going on with her?
She may have fallen under the sway of a charismatic preacher; she may be going through a rough time personally, or have the beginnings of dementia.
Before you prepare speeches to other members of your family decrying this "lunacy," you should do your best to get to the bottom of what might be behind your mother's pronouncement.
You should make a special effort to see your mother in person to find out what is going on. You can start your conversation by saying, "Mom, I'm worried about you; the e-mail you sent to me doesn't even sound like you. What's going on?" You could check in with her friends and physicians to see if there are any recent changes in her health and look into her finances to make sure that her church contributions are in the normal range.
If you are confident that your mother is of sound mind and that she really does want to cut herself off from you because of this, then you have to accept it.
Because of her age, however, I hope that you will do your best to try to keep in touch with her, even if it's difficult for you.
(Send questions via e-mail to [email protected] or by mail to Ask Amy, Chicago Tribune, TT500, 435 N. Michigan Ave., Chicago, IL 60611.)
I've been called an Apostababe...I feel so darn SEXY right now!!!
Oh Darling Husband....
Goodnight!
WG
well, first thanks all for the posts before i left,.
it went great,,,,i did not recognize him,,,,i couldnt believe it,,what a fine young man he became,,,,we had 2 hours of wonderful talking together (bad grammer but i am still in a fog:).
when it was over we stood outside coffee shot for a few min and i am sure i saw a few tears, then he hugged me, for quite a few seconds...and basically he said he would leave in my hands to contact him,,,,here i was worried he wouldnt want to see me for another 9 years.
I am so happy for you. It sounds like your Christmas present came early. I hope you continue to keep in contact and be loving towards eachother.
WG
I liked the old one better.....but this one is nice too.
WG
as many of you know, i have a myspace.com account.. apparently, while i was out last night, someone called my mother and informed her of my activities on myspace.
my mother called and asked me for my login info, and was shocked to see me, and around 40 witnesses in my area having active profiles.
contents of these profile ranged from a few pictures to downright self-incrimination.
I would find out who ratted you out and make them pay! What were they doing on the internet anyway!!
I'm sorry this is happening to you - but unfortunately as others have said what you did was right out there in the public eye...
You really should take the XFiles approach when dealing with other JW's.....Trust no one!
If you get pulled into a JC...blame someone you don't like and say they stumbled you and say you're sorry and maybe cry....if you cry they will think your repentant.
Keep in touch with us when you can.
Good luck!
WG
anybody have any yesterday or in the past during holiday gatherings?.
i kind of expect for there to be tensions with some people over the holidays because it can be stressful...but i also think that since my siblings and i didn't grow up celebrating anything that it adds an extra tension and can sometimes cause fights.
any experiences?
Under 74,
I think all of us with dysfunctional familes are related! LOL...
I always say...my family put the funk...in dysfunctional....LOL!
WG
i'm back!
with more questions for "unbelieving mates" of jehovah's witnesses, or ubm's.
tetrapod, i haven't forgotten you, and i'm working on a follow-up thread on friendships as well.
1. How did your mixed marriage happen?
d) Other - explain!
I met my husband on the internet. We talked for 3 months then met in person. We spent 3 weeks together, he went home for one week packed his stuff and we've been together ever since...8 years. He didn't tell me he had even been raised as a JW until we had already been livng together for 3 months. Then a lot of things made sense...!!! LOL!!! He told me he had been away for a long time and didn't think he would ever go back. I believed him. We lived together for 2 years, got pregnant, got married and the weekend we came home from getting married - a month and a half before our first son was born he decided to go back to the meetings and start studying again. I went with him until I started researching the JW's because what they taught me in my bible studies didn't match up with what I had been taught growing up.
2. Did the two of you talk about your different beliefs and how you were raised before you committed to the other?
We talked about everything when he finally told me he had been raised a JW. Before that we were just completely in love with eachother. He had left out the whole religion thing and I just thought he was moral but not into religion. Thinking back I wasn't too smart! I had been completely honest with how I was raised
3. How many times a month or week (whatever is easier to describe) does spiritual subjects come up in your home?
It comes up almost daily. We talk about JW's, Catholics, Mormons, Christian Scientists...Politics. We are very avid followers of the news and world events.
4. How do you relate/interact with other witnesses or congregation members?
My husbands JW family are wacko's and we have nothing to do with them. Some JW's are nice but alot are just too nosy. I only see them when they knock on my door, the supermarket, mall, or at a death in my husbands family. Mostly they don't recognize me anymore because I lost almost 200 pounds.
5. Do you talk to non-JW family about your JW spouse?
Yes of course! But not in a non-respectful way. Mainly to explain to them why we may or may not do or teach our children certain things.
6. Are you an "opposing mate"?
MOST DEFINATELY!!!!
7. If you are a Christian, what are the most contentious subjects with your JW spouse?
I was Jewish when I met my husband....but now I am a Messianic Jewish Agnostic Atheist..Don't Ask!
8. If you are an Agnostic/Athiest, what are the most contentious subjects with your JW spouse?
N/A
9. When/how/what made you realize your marriage/family was threatened by your spouse's JW affiliation?
When I was giving birth to my first son and the elders showed up at the hospital because I needed a blood transfusion...this is when I realized my life might be threatened by my husbands beliefs. When our first pediatrician treated us like freaks because of my husbands religious beliefs and told us that they would take us to court if we ever opposed the medical treatment prescribed...I thought that his religion might be a problem in our life. When the Elders treated me like I was stupid for asking reasonable questions - I really figured out our life might be impacted by his religion. When the Elders sent my husband out into service with a single beautiful sister and repeated that she would make a good wife and mother...I knew I had to take action!
10. My favorite question, anything else to add?
I think that these polls should be composed into a file for the people that show up every week on this board saying...boo hoo - I'm dating a Jehovahs Witness - what should I do! I can't even stand to read those threads any longer....!
i can't believe how yummy these chocolates are!!
what is it about english chocolate that tastes soooooooo good?
must be the mad cows!!
I personally love Mirabou chocolate from Sweden the best....I get it from Ikea and Swedish/Scandinavian stores. It is soooo creamy and yummy!
If I don't have any of that I love Godiva's Truffles! They have a key lime and cranberry both with dark chocolate that are so yummy!
WG